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Night View of the Esperanza Fire
Night View of the Esperanza Fire

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RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 11:32pm
I had to go out to the kitchen to flip my meat, my rump, my rump roast that I am marinating for sauerbraten for an Oktoberfest party on Saturday.

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 11:11pm
Well, that wasn't EXACTLY the analogy I had in mind, but true enough.

bills grandson
Oct 22 : 11:09pm
I have almost stepped on a couple when stepping over rocks (snakes, not girls) but have never had one try to strike. The closest was hiking up on skyline walking through heavy brush I heard on rattle.
Had no clue where he was backed out the way I came in and that seemed to work.
We were in Holcomb creek by the beaver ponds and I saw what appeared to be a garden snake with rattles. I left that one alone too

bills grandson
Oct 22 : 11:05pm
so were talking about girls now?

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 11:04pm
They know what size prey they want, and it's not you. They will hide unless felt threatened.

bills grandson
Oct 22 : 10:51pm

the nice thing about living around town was there wasn't many rattlesnakes.
When we started going down to cactus flats
I had to learn to watch for them, and that you can't move tree limbs with your shoulder, oh yah and cholla is not fun to hide riding a bike. Most of the places I like in Holcomb don't have a lot of rattlesnakes either. I have been lucky to not having seen to many rattlesnakes. I have also only seen one of the king snakes that look like a coral snake. Very cool.

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 10:36pm
When I worked for the Forest Service I once stepped over a log. I felt my boot squirming around, figured it out, jumped back real quick, and sure enough, it was a coiled up rattlesnake that couldn't get his head out to strike me. Close.

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 10:19pm
Yes, chicken.

©ammy
Oct 22 : 10:17pm
Ok, I gotta find something else to read before I go to sleep so I don't have nightmares.

©ammy
Oct 22 : 10:17pm
Of the creatures I don't like to come across in the forest, I think rattlesnake is #1 or 2. Mountain lion is the other one. Although, I haven't seen a mountain lion in the forest yet, so I do want to see one. But from safely INSIDE the truck.

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 10:14pm
One time we found a pair, with the female still at the den. There were about 10 little ones, maybe six inches long. Left those guys alone. The little ones have a worse bite than the adults because they have not yet learned how to inject just enough venom to subdue their prey. They will empty the entire venom sac. Much more than a mature snake would use.

©ammy
Oct 22 : 10:06pm
I hear rattlesnake tastes like chicken. (Don't they say everything tastes like chicken?) But I'm not about to get close enough to one (intentionally) to find out!

©ammy
Oct 22 : 10:05pm
Some info about why the gate was installed: [Click Here]

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 10:02pm
Thanx, Cammy. 50 ears ago my family and another used to go up canyon from Pioneer Town and catch rattlesnakes. Look for tracks across the road and then track them. Catch them with snake hooks, put them in burlap sacks, and take them back to the other family's house. He had cages and fed them mice. In the fall we would have a barbeque.

©ammy
Oct 22 : 10:01pm
Looks like there's a gate at the east (actually south, as the property line goes) end of Forest Service land. If this map marker works properly (I still haven't gotten used to the new Google Maps) then you should be able to zoom in on it and see the gate on the satellite view. Then if you switch to map mode, you'll see the FS boundary line: [Click Here]


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