Registered Member #1655 Joined: Sun Oct 26 2008, 05:33PM : Posts: 2836
God forbid campers in a primative campground like Holcomb get dusty. As I remember they first said the road base was to ease access and to cut down on erosion as you mentioned. Only thing I have noticed that soon after some sections get paved and folks who would normally drive slowly due to ruts are doing 35-40 on some of the roads.
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After one winter though, the road base isn't in such great shape in some parts. 2N09 - Polique Canyon Road is really bumpy on the north end, 3N12 - Delamar Mountain Road has some good ruts in it from people spinning their tires and there's also one nicely eroded section that I slow nearly to a stop to cross. It may have sounded like a good idea when they pitched it, but it hasn't held up well in some places. I've seen evidence of grading on lots of roads this spring, but they were all dirt roads. I haven't seen any evidence of the roads with the new base being maintained yet.
Registered Member #1655 Joined: Sun Oct 26 2008, 05:33PM : Posts: 2836
At the risk of turning this into a politics thing, great way to spend our tax dollars. Wasn’t much more wrong with the roads 2 years ago than there is now with the “new upgrades”. But of course I like bumpy dirt roads.
Nice picture Cammy, I love seeing wildlife! nothing in life is free, it ain't about easy it's about tough
"We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible" Vince Lombardi
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Registered Member #659 Joined: Sat Sep 15 2007, 01:32PM : Posts: 8634
It would be nice to see them make a comeback. yes sunset and sunrise are the best times. It is good to park downwind of a place you see them and often they will come out near sundown. near water is the best Often it is a little to late to get a good picture Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
Someone who thinks logically provides a nice contrast to the real world.
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Registered Member #52 Joined: Sun Oct 15 2006, 09:40PM : Posts: 1786
Come on Goat Boy. It's just another obstacle in the new sport of Car vs Mtn Bike. Besides, more people know my name when they can drive like maniacs out there. Y'know, Nietzsche says: "Out of chaos comes order."
Registered Member #1655 Joined: Sun Oct 26 2008, 05:33PM : Posts: 2836
dd wrote ...
Besides, more people know my name when they can drive like maniacs out there.
Very funny!! I had something to that effect written after the post about Holcomb campground. Back spaced it away as most wouldn't know what we were talking about. Probably can figure it out now. nothing in life is free, it ain't about easy it's about tough
"We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible" Vince Lombardi
"Faith is not about everything turning out OK; Faith is about being OK no matter how things turn out."
Out on a drive to Big Pine Flat a couple days ago, we discovered that 3N97 - map: [Click Here] and 3N97A - map: [Click Here] have recently been reopened! 3N97 is only open to the Ironwood Group Camp which is at "B" on the 3N97 map. This road is in good shape and could possibly be traversed in a low clearance vehicle. We did not need 4WD here. 3N97A has deep ruts in it so you'll want to choose your route carefully if you go on this road. 4WD is not necessary but a high clearance vehicle is a must to get over & through the deep ruts. Other roads in this area - if you're looking at the Google Map, you'll notice a 3N97B. That road only goes about 1/2 as far as the map shows and it ends at a Yellow Post campsite. We did not drive on 3N04Y as it looks like it's supposed to be blocked off on the south end. We did verify it IS still fenced off at the north end.
Happy 35th anniversary to my wonderful wife Kimberly. It seems like only yesterday. Alas, three beautiful daughters, three perky grandkids, what more could a guy ask for.
Thanks ATL, but I'm not really the backpacking type - too heavy of a pack. Several years ago I hiked Mt. Whitney in a day. About a month later, I backpacked up to Dollar Lake & then went to the top of Gorgonio the next day. That overnight trip seemed more difficult to me than the day hike on Whitney.
nice sunny.. i have grand nieces and the are a joy such sweet manners and just adorable to be around. they are 4 year old twins one takes after dad and the other takes after their mother
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