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Fri Apr 13 2012, 10:01AM Email Thread Print View

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Big Bear Alternative Energy Group

The Big Bear Alternative Energy Group will hear presentations by solar installers who want to work with Valley residents to make solar power accessible and affordable through leasing and/or purchase. The first one-hour presentation will be held on Wednesday, May 9, 2012, at 6:30 p.m. at the Masonic Lodge. The meeting is for informational purposes only. There is no charge to attend the meeting, and by attending you will be under no obligation to join the group or to purchase or lease solar power. There will be a question-answer period afterward. For more information or to RSVP, please contact BBAEGroup©

In 2008 I attended the meeting held by the Public Utilities Commission (PUC) to hear arguments against a 24% rate increase that had been proposed by Bear Valley Electric (BVE). Many residents attended that meeting and put forth eloquent and strenuous arguments against the rate hike. Nevertheless, an increase of 19% over five years was approved on the strength of BVE's claim that they had to make up for not having raised rates in a decade--and despite the fact that its parent company, American States Water, is a publicly traded and very profitable company.

Since the PUC approved that rate increase, BVE has gotten another "temporary" rate increase, which has yet to be implemented, to cover costs incurred during winter storms in 2010. Now they want yet another 7.9%, effective in 2013.

I have started the Big Bear Alternative Energy Group and have approached several down-the-hill suppliers of solar and wind power about providing solar leasing to the mountain. Leasing makes solar power accessible to many homeowners because there are no up-front costs. Leasing solar power means you do not have to pay for or finance the solar panels and other hardware. You do not have to do any maintenance--this is all included in your monthly payment, which is lower--sometimes significantly lower--depending on your usage. It's like switching utility companies, only better, because your electric bill is lower, you are protected from any rate increases, and you are doing something great for the environment.

Two of the companies I have approached are preparing to do presentations for our group. The first one-hour presentation will be held Wednesday, May 9, 2012, at 6:30 p.m. at the Masonic Lodge. There will be time for questions afterward. If you would like to attend, please RSVP to BBAEGroup© so that we know how many will be present. If you like, you can be put on my mailing list and receive updates and information on the next solar installer presentation. If you forget to RSVP, don't worry! Just show up.

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Sun Apr 22 2012, 09:28PM

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Excellent!! That's the way to do it- if you don't like the status quo create a solution! We'll be there!
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Sun Apr 22 2012, 09:45PM

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Me too! I would LOVE to be able to quit BVES.

Summer will be here soon!
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Mon Apr 23 2012, 06:34AM
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Beware of free cookies. While solar might work for some folks that have the right location for solar exposure, the boondoogle of companies in the "business" and the leases offered all need to be closely examined. There are any number of articles, both good and bad about install experiences to be found online.

Can solar work? Yes. Can a home owner end up behind the Eight Ball? Sadly, yes too.

And if you have a solar lease and sell your home, that's another layer to be dealt with in escrow, the assumption of the lease, which in some buyer's eyes, might not be a positive.

But it's well worth considering in a valley that has a solar observatory -- and for a very good reason. Lots of sunshine.
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Ernest T. Bass
Mon Apr 23 2012, 09:24AM

winter is coming, soon, real soon
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I won't be going solar here, too many trees and they will be here after I'm gone! And wind is out too as it never reaches the ground here as much as my trees move it is calm at ground level.

I don’t need your attitude thanks, I have one of my own!

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Wed May 09 2012, 12:18PM

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This is still taking place tonight, correct? We are perfectly suited for solar (or wind). Solar is quieter!
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DE is great! I have lots of pets and farm type animals. Go ahead and use the pool grade for the ants, it is cheaper. There is a food grade to use around pets. It is white in color and has been more refined for pet use. Do not use the gray color, pool filter stuff around pets!

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Thanks for the advice. Terro is wonderful for killing most ants I agree, but these are little tiny fast ants that just moving into San Diego and are taking over. They eat Terro and just keep on draining it dry and keep on eating it and nothing seems to happen to them. I will try Diatomaceous earth. Thanks

These ants are not even that excited about sugar, they seem to like protien and they hate the sunlight, so if i put a bowl of dog food in the sun they leave fast leaving an amonia sweet smell behind whech leaves in a few days. In the ktichen just washing with water right away makes them leave for a while, but scouts are all over the garden, some in the house, a friend had them kill a small tree. And they farm some little tiny black round thing.

Ernest T. Bass
Jul 23 : 05:29pm
for ants use Diatomaceous earth (what is used in pool filters) wont hurt animals but will kill ants

Gutter Duster
Jul 23 : 05:12pm
But you MUST keep it (TERRO) from your other animals... Deadly to them also...

Debbie Doodah
Jul 23 : 04:36pm
For ants you might want to buy Terro. Set a trap out, they feed, take it home and it kills off the whole nest. Takes a couple days but is great.

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Sun Diego- interested in hearing more about your hydroponics- since I dont' think ground squirrels can swim!! However WD40 is NOT fish oil- it is petroleum based!

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