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Fri Apr 13 2012, 10:01AM Email Thread Print View

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Big Bear Alternative Energy Group

The Big Bear Alternative Energy Group will hear presentations by solar installers who want to work with Valley residents to make solar power accessible and affordable through leasing and/or purchase. The first one-hour presentation will be held on Wednesday, May 9, 2012, at 6:30 p.m. at the Masonic Lodge. The meeting is for informational purposes only. There is no charge to attend the meeting, and by attending you will be under no obligation to join the group or to purchase or lease solar power. There will be a question-answer period afterward. For more information or to RSVP, please contact BBAEGroup©

In 2008 I attended the meeting held by the Public Utilities Commission (PUC) to hear arguments against a 24% rate increase that had been proposed by Bear Valley Electric (BVE). Many residents attended that meeting and put forth eloquent and strenuous arguments against the rate hike. Nevertheless, an increase of 19% over five years was approved on the strength of BVE's claim that they had to make up for not having raised rates in a decade--and despite the fact that its parent company, American States Water, is a publicly traded and very profitable company.

Since the PUC approved that rate increase, BVE has gotten another "temporary" rate increase, which has yet to be implemented, to cover costs incurred during winter storms in 2010. Now they want yet another 7.9%, effective in 2013.

I have started the Big Bear Alternative Energy Group and have approached several down-the-hill suppliers of solar and wind power about providing solar leasing to the mountain. Leasing makes solar power accessible to many homeowners because there are no up-front costs. Leasing solar power means you do not have to pay for or finance the solar panels and other hardware. You do not have to do any maintenance--this is all included in your monthly payment, which is lower--sometimes significantly lower--depending on your usage. It's like switching utility companies, only better, because your electric bill is lower, you are protected from any rate increases, and you are doing something great for the environment.

Two of the companies I have approached are preparing to do presentations for our group. The first one-hour presentation will be held Wednesday, May 9, 2012, at 6:30 p.m. at the Masonic Lodge. There will be time for questions afterward. If you would like to attend, please RSVP to BBAEGroup© so that we know how many will be present. If you like, you can be put on my mailing list and receive updates and information on the next solar installer presentation. If you forget to RSVP, don't worry! Just show up.

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Sun Apr 22 2012, 09:28PM

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Excellent!! That's the way to do it- if you don't like the status quo create a solution! We'll be there!
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Sun Apr 22 2012, 09:45PM

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Me too! I would LOVE to be able to quit BVES.

Summer will be here soon!
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Mon Apr 23 2012, 06:34AM
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Beware of free cookies. While solar might work for some folks that have the right location for solar exposure, the boondoogle of companies in the "business" and the leases offered all need to be closely examined. There are any number of articles, both good and bad about install experiences to be found online.

Can solar work? Yes. Can a home owner end up behind the Eight Ball? Sadly, yes too.

And if you have a solar lease and sell your home, that's another layer to be dealt with in escrow, the assumption of the lease, which in some buyer's eyes, might not be a positive.

But it's well worth considering in a valley that has a solar observatory -- and for a very good reason. Lots of sunshine.
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Ernest T. Bass
Mon Apr 23 2012, 09:24AM

winter is coming, soon, real soon
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I won't be going solar here, too many trees and they will be here after I'm gone! And wind is out too as it never reaches the ground here as much as my trees move it is calm at ground level.

I don’t need your attitude thanks, I have one of my own!

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Wed May 09 2012, 12:18PM

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This is still taking place tonight, correct? We are perfectly suited for solar (or wind). Solar is quieter!
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Oct 26 : 08:50pm
I remember, a weekend in Sept.
I thinx, 70-or 71 when we got apx. 18" of snow and opened Summit for the wknd.
It sticks in my mind becuz DICK and I we're running Ch. 1 for sightseeing, and we were pissed cuz we couldn't go ski.

Oct 26 : 08:30pm
Anybody remember the drag strip? When sandalwood was being graded there were a couple of weekends when they raced sandrails. Maybe 1978...

Oct 26 : 08:21pm
No snow yet. 3 more weeks and I'll be good. Then it can snow all it wants

Oct 26 : 08:10pm

Forget rain......Think SNOW.

Oct 26 : 07:59pm
Got caught offshore a few times, with no predicted problems....REALLY WASN'T FUN AT ALL.

bills grandson
Oct 26 : 07:56pm
they also had a BMX track where the swim beach is at meadow park. Near the marina when the lake was down dirt was removed so it may have appeared like a race track. We hunted dove and rabbits with shotguns. The entire lake erupted during duck season opening day half hour before sunrise.

Oct 26 : 07:45pm
Thanx Benny and Cammy..
With a USCG Master Mariner Liscense, I wish I had that map back then. And a couple of others.
Good Stuff guys.

Benny (N6BWX)
Oct 26 : 07:36pm
Glad you're digging that map Mike, Cammy found it! And yes, that's about right.... we'll wait and see now. Could wind up being a good soaked, regardless, we'll get some more rain!

Oct 26 : 06:28pm

Oct 26 : 06:28pm
Looking at the WV MAP...
I Thinx, if Seymour ( or remnants from), moves about 100 miles more north, or a little less, the flows could come together and POSSIBLY provide a better rain environment for us.
Is this thinxing in line with what you're considering, or am I missing soething.?
It's a totally cool map.

Oct 26 : 05:16pm of the highway.

Oct 26 : 05:15pm
The bmx track was in Metcalf Bay

Oct 26 : 04:59pm
Wasn't the bmx race track over across from Mill Creek picnic area on the lake side?

Oct 26 : 04:57pm

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