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[moved] SOLAR LEASING INFO PRESENTATION

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moongraphic
Fri Apr 13 2012, 10:01AM Email Thread Print View

deenibeeni
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Big Bear Alternative Energy Group

The Big Bear Alternative Energy Group will hear presentations by solar installers who want to work with Valley residents to make solar power accessible and affordable through leasing and/or purchase. The first one-hour presentation will be held on Wednesday, May 9, 2012, at 6:30 p.m. at the Masonic Lodge. The meeting is for informational purposes only. There is no charge to attend the meeting, and by attending you will be under no obligation to join the group or to purchase or lease solar power. There will be a question-answer period afterward. For more information or to RSVP, please contact BBAEGroup©gmail.com.f

In 2008 I attended the meeting held by the Public Utilities Commission (PUC) to hear arguments against a 24% rate increase that had been proposed by Bear Valley Electric (BVE). Many residents attended that meeting and put forth eloquent and strenuous arguments against the rate hike. Nevertheless, an increase of 19% over five years was approved on the strength of BVE's claim that they had to make up for not having raised rates in a decade--and despite the fact that its parent company, American States Water, is a publicly traded and very profitable company.

Since the PUC approved that rate increase, BVE has gotten another "temporary" rate increase, which has yet to be implemented, to cover costs incurred during winter storms in 2010. Now they want yet another 7.9%, effective in 2013.

I have started the Big Bear Alternative Energy Group and have approached several down-the-hill suppliers of solar and wind power about providing solar leasing to the mountain. Leasing makes solar power accessible to many homeowners because there are no up-front costs. Leasing solar power means you do not have to pay for or finance the solar panels and other hardware. You do not have to do any maintenance--this is all included in your monthly payment, which is lower--sometimes significantly lower--depending on your usage. It's like switching utility companies, only better, because your electric bill is lower, you are protected from any rate increases, and you are doing something great for the environment.

Two of the companies I have approached are preparing to do presentations for our group. The first one-hour presentation will be held Wednesday, May 9, 2012, at 6:30 p.m. at the Masonic Lodge. There will be time for questions afterward. If you would like to attend, please RSVP to BBAEGroup©gmail.com so that we know how many will be present. If you like, you can be put on my mailing list and receive updates and information on the next solar installer presentation. If you forget to RSVP, don't worry! Just show up.

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BootsNBridles
Sun Apr 22 2012, 09:28PM

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Excellent!! That's the way to do it- if you don't like the status quo create a solution! We'll be there!
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cricket
Sun Apr 22 2012, 09:45PM

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Me too! I would LOVE to be able to quit BVES.

Summer will be here soon!
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Oso
Mon Apr 23 2012, 06:34AM
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Beware of free cookies. While solar might work for some folks that have the right location for solar exposure, the boondoogle of companies in the "business" and the leases offered all need to be closely examined. There are any number of articles, both good and bad about install experiences to be found online.

Can solar work? Yes. Can a home owner end up behind the Eight Ball? Sadly, yes too.

And if you have a solar lease and sell your home, that's another layer to be dealt with in escrow, the assumption of the lease, which in some buyer's eyes, might not be a positive.

But it's well worth considering in a valley that has a solar observatory -- and for a very good reason. Lots of sunshine.
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Ernest T. Bass
Mon Apr 23 2012, 09:24AM

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I won't be going solar here, too many trees and they will be here after I'm gone! And wind is out too as it never reaches the ground here as much as my trees move it is calm at ground level.

I don’t need your attitude thanks, I have one of my own!

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BootsNBridles
Wed May 09 2012, 12:18PM

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This is still taking place tonight, correct? We are perfectly suited for solar (or wind). Solar is quieter!
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RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 11:32pm
I had to go out to the kitchen to flip my meat, my rump, my rump roast that I am marinating for sauerbraten for an Oktoberfest party on Saturday.

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 11:11pm
Well, that wasn't EXACTLY the analogy I had in mind, but true enough.

bills grandson
Oct 22 : 11:09pm
I have almost stepped on a couple when stepping over rocks (snakes, not girls) but have never had one try to strike. The closest was hiking up on skyline walking through heavy brush I heard on rattle.
Had no clue where he was backed out the way I came in and that seemed to work.
We were in Holcomb creek by the beaver ponds and I saw what appeared to be a garden snake with rattles. I left that one alone too

bills grandson
Oct 22 : 11:05pm
so were talking about girls now?

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 11:04pm
They know what size prey they want, and it's not you. They will hide unless felt threatened.

bills grandson
Oct 22 : 10:51pm

the nice thing about living around town was there wasn't many rattlesnakes.
When we started going down to cactus flats
I had to learn to watch for them, and that you can't move tree limbs with your shoulder, oh yah and cholla is not fun to hide riding a bike. Most of the places I like in Holcomb don't have a lot of rattlesnakes either. I have been lucky to not having seen to many rattlesnakes. I have also only seen one of the king snakes that look like a coral snake. Very cool.

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 10:36pm
When I worked for the Forest Service I once stepped over a log. I felt my boot squirming around, figured it out, jumped back real quick, and sure enough, it was a coiled up rattlesnake that couldn't get his head out to strike me. Close.

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 10:19pm
Yes, chicken.

©ammy
Oct 22 : 10:17pm
Ok, I gotta find something else to read before I go to sleep so I don't have nightmares.

©ammy
Oct 22 : 10:17pm
Of the creatures I don't like to come across in the forest, I think rattlesnake is #1 or 2. Mountain lion is the other one. Although, I haven't seen a mountain lion in the forest yet, so I do want to see one. But from safely INSIDE the truck.

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 10:14pm
One time we found a pair, with the female still at the den. There were about 10 little ones, maybe six inches long. Left those guys alone. The little ones have a worse bite than the adults because they have not yet learned how to inject just enough venom to subdue their prey. They will empty the entire venom sac. Much more than a mature snake would use.

©ammy
Oct 22 : 10:06pm
I hear rattlesnake tastes like chicken. (Don't they say everything tastes like chicken?) But I'm not about to get close enough to one (intentionally) to find out!

©ammy
Oct 22 : 10:05pm
Some info about why the gate was installed: [Click Here]

RetiredRedHat
Oct 22 : 10:02pm
Thanx, Cammy. 50 ears ago my family and another used to go up canyon from Pioneer Town and catch rattlesnakes. Look for tracks across the road and then track them. Catch them with snake hooks, put them in burlap sacks, and take them back to the other family's house. He had cages and fed them mice. In the fall we would have a barbeque.

©ammy
Oct 22 : 10:01pm
Looks like there's a gate at the east (actually south, as the property line goes) end of Forest Service land. If this map marker works properly (I still haven't gotten used to the new Google Maps) then you should be able to zoom in on it and see the gate on the satellite view. Then if you switch to map mode, you'll see the FS boundary line: [Click Here]


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