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Doug G
Thu Jun 14 2018, 11:46AM Email Thread Print View
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I remember fishing off the old dam when I was a kid. I'm wondering what was the most recent time the old dam was showing out of the water?

(I could probably find this with google but this forum needs more activity )

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I am pretty sure portions of the old dam were visible prior to the winter season of 2016-17.

I too fished from the old dam as a kid in the late 1950s, early 60's.
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Thanks, I had no idea it might have been out of the water that recently. It was a strong drought though, and I haven't gotten up the hill in some years now. For a couple decades I made a 4th fireworks viewing pilgrimage up to the lake, but kids moved out of state and I'm not as mobile as I used to be.


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1968 the top might of been above the water in the late 70s. I think the rock dam is about 20 lower than the new dam

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I've only been in Big Bear for 24 years and I've seen the top of the old dam at least a couple of times if not more.
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Was it out of the water far enough that all the fishermen lined up on it, like a postcard picture I've seen? I was maybe 10 or so when we first moved up the hill in the later 60's, and I recall walking clear across the old dam. But weekends and evenings there were usually too many people fishing to get all the way across.


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As I recall, a couple years ago, just the edges were above water. The middle, lower part (spillway?) was still under a few feet of water.
By this Fall, the old dam should be out of the water farther though.
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I was googling for the picture postcard I remembered seeing, didn't find it yet but did stumble across this collection of BB postcards: [Click Here]

[UPDATE] Found one showing what I remember as a kid: [Click Here]

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In 1955 - 1957 or so I would sit on the old rock dam and fish with my dad. The water was far, far below the top of the dam. In 1956 the lake level was down 51 feet. That was when we could walk from Pine Knot Landing to North Shore on dry land. This link shows all the historical lake levels. Quite interesting [Click Here]
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kendallbear wrote ...

In 1955 - 1957 or so I would sit on the old rock dam and fish with my dad. The water was far, far below the top of the dam. In 1956 the lake level was down 51 feet. That was when we could walk from Pine Knot Landing to North Shore on dry land. This link shows all the historical lake levels. Quite interesting [Click Here]

Thanks for the link. We may have crossed paths on the old dam. After a couple years driving up from LA and visiting our cabin by Baldwin Lake, we moved up the hill full time to BBC 1956-59, I would have been 10 in '56.

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