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Barton Flats Fire (Coon Creek Cabins)

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BARTON FIRE - 11/10 20:00 HRS

GPS LOCATIONS
11/10 22:00 34.127818, -116.787870 Initial reported location of fire.
11/10 22:30 34 0858.16, -116 4158.21 Location of reporting party saying surrounded by Fire (CHP Report)
11/10 00:00 34.1496500, -116.6995167 Confirmed GPS coordinates of fire - crew on scene.

INCIDENT HISTORY
11/10 21:00 HeartBar Campground to be used as Staging
11/10 22:00 Fish Creek Trail Head
11/10 22:45 Night Flying Helicopter Requested
11/10 23:00 Coon Creek Cabins (Jump off)
11/10 23:00 Still trying to reach RP that reported being surrounded by fire.
11/10 23:05 Sending Engines to Coon Creek Cabins for reported parties surrounded by fire.
11/10 23:45 Air Attack Platform with Helicopter 534 - 2 Air Tankers - STs
11/10 23:50 Party of 2 located near Coon Creek Cabins. Suffering from mild Hypothermia - ambulance enroute.
11/10 00:00 Hike in fire units have reached the fire - fire estimated 5 acres with no to slow rate of spread - moderate wind on it.
11/10 00:00 Units will be engaging the fire this evening by creating line. The incident map has been updated with coordinates of fire.
11/11 00:10 Putting in orders for aircraft at 7am but having some difficulty getting them filled due to resource availability.
11/11 07:00 Firefighters made good progress on this fire overnight. Updated Stats: 1.6 acres with 50% containment.
11/11 07:15 Aircraft Order cancelled however they will have access to Helicopter 534 today.
11/11 10:00 Good Progress Being made on this fire by ground troops with assistance from H534. Thank you Firefighters!

AIRCRAFT ORDER FOR 11/11 @ 07:00am
1 Air Attack Plane
1 Helicopter 534
2 S2 Air Tankers
1 Helitanker
*** REQUEST WAS NOT FILLED ***

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Mtngoat John⭐
Sun Nov 11 2018, 07:07AM


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Aircraft order for the Barton Flats Fire has been cancelled with the exception of H534. H534 to remain available but in base.
Units onscene made good progress on containment overnight. Lines were wind tested and holding per IC trainee.

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Sun Nov 11 2018, 07:11AM

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Mtn.goat John wrote ...

Aircraft order for the Barton Flats Fire has been cancelled with the exception of H534. H534 to remain available but in base.
Units onscene made good progress on containment overnight. Lines were wind tested and holding per IC trainee.


Great news! Our firefighters are so great!

I started out with nothing and I still have most of it!
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Mtngoat John⭐
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Fire is at 1.6 acres with 50% containment

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holeinbow
Jan 22 : 05:50pm
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doo·hick·ey
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Jan 22 : 04:53pm
The Sierras use it but supposedly CA banned it decades ago due to being environmentally unfriendly and the wildlife are drawn to it, birds & brake for the dear munching in road! Wisconsin uses a cheese brine, go figure.

Airport Razz
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Jan 22 : 04:19pm
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doo·hick·ey
Jan 22 : 03:42pm
I have no reference of fact, but I thought salt was only used on East coast/Midwestern roads and especially not in a CA national forest area. Maybe they swept after dark due to less traffic?

NShore.Allen
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Mountain art. I heard they were laying a salt solution.



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