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springvalley
Mon Aug 26 2019, 01:47PM Email Thread Print View
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Looks like a public hearing on the trash fee waivers and new application fee is in the works - Public hearing at 10 AM On Oct 8th at the Board of Supervisors.

Losing the fee waiver was a kick in the face to part timers and weekenders - paying a full toll on services never to be rendered. The Pitchforks and torches were noticed and it looks like the Board is giving the option back - - potentially.

I have no real issue with a Fee to maintain trash capacity - even for homes that generate no mountain trash load. It's just that Burrtec was like a crook that just found an ATM where the pin was 1-2-3-4. It was full fees suddenly for no actual service or need.
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Airport Razz
Mon Aug 26 2019, 07:07PM
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What are these fee waivers you speak of. is this Big Bear Disposal or BBCCSD? or are you of the SV Lake crowd?
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springvalley
Mon Aug 26 2019, 09:16PM
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I believe this is Burrtec - Running springs areas county franchise area 16 and perhaps others.
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Arrowbear Rider
Fri Aug 30 2019, 07:48AM
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I live in Arrowbear, are your fees different? We can pay a base fee and drop off trash or pay full and get p/u. The difference isn't much, but at least part timers home owners get some discount. Being full time I went with p/u, but the price savings wouldn't had made it worth it to drop off myself.

My first thought on this when I was a new owner up here was that was a good way to spread the cost of operations up here while giving the ones that would just take their "trash home" another option. Because unfortunately that isn't what always happens, their trash becomes some else's problem, dumped in a dumpster (seen it) or left at another neighbor that has p/u but is not there that weekend. This has happened at a property that I care take for a neighbor that has p/u, I pointed out the price difference being not that much and he figured it was worth the convenience too. At least with the drop off that dumpster drop will/should go there instead... since they already paid for it.

It sucks that some people cause this to be necessary, but some will always try to cheap out on their share of the responsibility or make their trash some else's problem, screwing it up for those of you that would follow the rules; thus the need for charging all something.



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rsbruce
Tue Sep 03 2019, 08:00PM
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I received this from Supervisor Rutherford:

Burrtec and the County have negotiated a revised fee waiver program that, if approved by the Board of Supervisors, will be incorporated into the trash company’s contract so it cannot be arbitrarily cancelled. The Board of Supervisors is scheduled to consider the proposed new fee waiver program during its regular meeting at 10 a.m. on Oct. 8, 2019.



Attached is report generated by the Solid Waste Division explaining how the proposed fee waiver program would work.



Again, thank you for contacting me about this matter. Please feel free to contact me anytime I may be of assistance with any County issues.



Sincerely,



Janice Rutherford

Second District Supervisor

County of San Bernardino

Here is the Pdf attachment:


proposed_fee_waiver_program_-_072219.pdf

RSBruce

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Airport Razz
Oct 19 : 09:42am
And I don't mean have a radio unit sitting on 38 on Tuesday and Wednesday to bust the locals (although, a few of them need to chill a tad also). Need the extra patrol on the weekends!!!!!!!!!!!!

Airport Razz
Oct 19 : 09:39am
Wow, I have come through the snow valley passing lanes at a fairly high rate of speed in my younger days and when had the sports car. You have to be doing something completely moronic and stupid to do what this idiot just pulled off. I do hope that no one died or seriously hurt. CHP, you need to do something about the speed issues continually happening that last couple of years. Could be you coming around that corner next time.

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Kenai
Oct 19 : 08:30am
As far as BVES wiring goes, up here in Surgarloaf it looks like something out of the 1800's with wires running every which way, My house is fed from a spice off of wires down the middle of the street. I would much prefer if it all was underground.

BootsNBridles
Oct 18 : 10:25pm
I'll try to find the legal discussion on this and repost it here.

Benny ⭐
Oct 18 : 09:50pm
Naw, it's specific to the threat, could be anywhere from hours to days. In our area it would generally be less than 24 hrs. Up in norcal they had had a multiday event so the outage duration followed.

BootsNBridles
Oct 18 : 08:53pm
This is not just a few hours folks. The new law prescribes very specific actions that a power company must follow once they've shut down. None of those actions can take place in a few hours- more like a few days.

©ammy ⭐
Oct 18 : 08:47pm
ButlerPeakFire - What took them so long to getting around to figuring out they needed to upgrade their system to be less prone to starting fires during conditions that we've been seeing, well....forever?

ButlerPeakFire
Oct 18 : 08:42pm
BVS follows SCE standards and works with the same contract design firms. Mine being one of them. They are currently starting to upgrade their systems for covered conductor. This should help strengthen their system against outages and phase to phase arcing that can create wildfires.

Benny ⭐
Oct 18 : 08:24pm
Yeah, it's all more or less the same thing... thankfully, we don't get the real strong Santa ana winds as in the valleys, passes and canyons.

Charles
Oct 18 : 08:23pm
Oh, I forgot about BVES. Thsts the same thing Edison has going. I think its being mandated by the PUC. Two weeks ago Edison had lots of warnings and some turn offs. This week there are warnings but not in this area. Some in San Berdo though.

Benny ⭐
Oct 18 : 08:01pm
We're not SCE, we're Bear Valley Electric Service (Big Bear Valley). This is the new standard to try and prevent the ignition of wildfires during times of high fire danger.

It's a proactive approach to protect life & property. [Click Here]

Charles
Oct 18 : 07:44pm
0n the Edison outage information web page, I dont see any of our nearby areas currently being considered for wind related shutdowns. Am I wrong.

rsbruce
Oct 18 : 07:29pm
I am a bit concerned that people are "normalizing" the behavior of the power company's potential shutdown of our power by comparing that to TRUE preparedness for disasters! This is a power company created crisis, NOT a natural disaster.

Benny ⭐
Oct 18 : 07:21pm
Remember we went through this same fire drill less than a week ago and power wasn't cut, this will be a weaker Santa Ana event, so I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Always be prepared just in case!



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