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solargardens
Tue Sep 17 2019, 12:00PM
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solargardens
Tue Sep 17 2019, 12:21PM
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Just noticed on my can we are responsible if the can is destroyed by fire. i now that is in the case that the can is ruined by ashes etc. BUT it also could be taken that if they are destroyed by a wildfire we would be responsible!!!! UGHHHHH!!!

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Kevin72
Tue Sep 17 2019, 04:22PM
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I went to the meeting. Good turnout. A lot of good points made by residents...
It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
The board said they spent 3 years working on this program, spoke about it in previous meetings, and were confused by the fact that virtually no one has said a word until now.
Living down the hill, I don’t normally make a habit of looking at the minutes etc. from these meetings so I had no idea this was being discussed.
Most boards, weather the CSD, city council etc. know that rate increases or changes to service bring people out of the woodwork. So my suggestion was to spend a few extra bucks and send letters to homeowners about potential new programs like this before the decision is made to get public input, and to also have a basic bulletin board on the CSD homepage with brief bullet points stating what topics will be discussed in the next meeting. That way no one has to sift through the site to try to find out if there is anything being discussed that might be of concern to them.

One topic they agreed to look into was that they originally had decided not to give customers a second bin for yard trash simply because they did not have the money to do so. Public comments were made that they could still allow us to put out our normal yard waste as usual in the meantime so as not to put the burden on the customer to solve a problem they created.
Also, to the Grizzly, instead of putting down people you think are unwilling to accept change or are living in the past in your Sept 11 opinion piece on these new bins maybe you could actually do what newspapers are supposed to do, do your own actual research and give us information that can actually benefit us as a community.
P.S. Grizzly newspaper: ironically a couple of comments the board made were specifically about how easy it would be for animals to open these bin lids and that even from the little bit of wind we had yesterday a large number of the lids were blown open. So much for your cheap shot mocking people about there concern for these cans blowing down the street. Even they had concerns what would happen to them in the wind....
Change can be good but not just for the sake of change. It needs to be well thought out and make sense....
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Jellylorum
Tue Sep 17 2019, 04:42PM

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The equipment/receptacle could be considered a lease. Yes, if you lease something, be it car, medical equipment, furniture, you are responsible for the cost of replacing it.
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KK
Tue Sep 17 2019, 06:16PM

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Thank You Kevin!
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-WINGNUT-
Tue Sep 17 2019, 07:42PM

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Received my massive trash can today. Love it!
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mountainart
Wed Sep 18 2019, 08:36AM
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just tried fitting 3 regular old style approved trash cans of kitchen sized trash bags into the new bin. Could not fit two of the bags in, lid wide open. Did a test with liquid,(super heavy, but filled up almost same volume. )
problem is that due to nature of trash irregular bulk, you CANNOT fill the new bin with same amount of real world trash. CSD needs to aclnowledge this.
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mountainart
Wed Sep 18 2019, 08:43AM
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Jellylorum wrote ...

The equipment/receptacle could be considered a lease. Yes, if you lease something, be it car, medical equipment, furniture, you are responsible for the cost of replacing it.



It is not considered a lease if you are prohibited from using your own equipment. That is a forced closed market. You are forced to use their equipment. When your electric or water meter breaks, the utilities replace at their own cost. If non negotiable equipment that a utility uses to conduct business breaks due to wear and tear, you really should not be held responsible.

In Pasadena where we lived, we had same style bins, and when they got damaged, for ANY reason( or stolen), the city just brought out new ones at no cost. CSD is one of the very few public trash services that will charge the responsibility to homeowner.
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Polar Orbit
Wed Sep 18 2019, 10:01AM
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Yeah, here in Costa Mesa, they replaced one of mine when the lid got swallowed by the truck, no charge. It sounds like CSD is pushing the limits on what a public utility service should be doing. Good luck to those making the legal challenges.

Don't blame me! I was left unsupervised!
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Airport Razz
Wed Sep 18 2019, 11:27AM
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New issue has come to light. I live on a corner. the guys that dropped off the can told me I can no longer have my trash picked up by the garage and driveway where it has been picked up now for the last 20 years. Telling me I have to wheel it around the property to the opposite corner where a parking pad is as they aren't supposed to pick up trash on connector roads. Well, my two neighbors cans were dropped off on that connector road also where they have had their trash picked up for the same time period and its only 20 ft further down the roadway than my driveway. CSD does not want to hear what I have to say if my trash doesn't get picked up tomorrow. There will be HELL on wheels and it wont be a stupid trash cart. Hoping that the guys on the trucks are still of sound mind and thought processes and haven't gotten sucked in by the Stupidity Gremlin that seems to have taken over CSD. 3 years discussion.........what a bunch of horse S#$%
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Oct 17 : 08:43pm
Got my property tax bill couple days ago and have to say I'm fairly pissed off. CSD services provided now in no way comparable to before so reduction of services with NO deduction in tax bill. Seems some Americans threw some tea in a harbor for similar BS. Thanks for not nothing CSD

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Oct 17 : 06:04pm
Open letter to BBCSD
Hoping that Big Bear City will enact a new area where those of us who can’t use the new trash bins because of being part-timers and not wanting to leave it out from Sunday to Tuesday for animals to tip can use when we leave to drop off our trash in a safe place. Especially since we are paying for it on our taxes and only use it occasionally Please just a thought. Transfer station put some dumpsters out front for easier drop off or the main office could have some dumpsters for us to use Thanks

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