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Cornbread
Mon Jun 29 2020, 06:52PM

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Here is a article from Ron Paul on how the media is lying about the 2nd wave.

For months, the Washington Post and the rest of the mainstream media kept a morbid Covid-19 “death count” on their front pages and at the top of their news broadcasts. The coronavirus outbreak was all about the number of dead. The narrative was intended to boost governors like Cuomo in New York and Whitmer in Michigan, who turned their states authoritarian under the false notion that destroying people’s jobs, freedom, and lives would somehow keep a virus from doing what viruses always do: spread through a population until eventually losing strength and dying out.

The “death count” was always the headline.

But then all of a sudden early in June the mainstream media did a George Orwell and lectured us that it is all about “cases” and has always been all about “cases.” Death, and especially infection fatality rate, were irrelevant. Why? Because from the peak in April, deaths had decreased by 90 percent and were continuing to crash. That was not terrifying enough so the media pretended this good news did not exist.

With massive increases in testing, the “case” numbers climbed. This is not rocket science: the more people you test the more “cases” you discover.

Unfortunately our mainstream media is only interested in pushing the “party line.” So the good news that millions more have been exposed while the fatality rate continues to decline - meaning the virus is getting weaker - is buried under hysterical false reporting of “new cases.”

Unfortunately many governors, including our own here in Texas, are incapable of resisting the endless lies of the mainstream media. They are putting Americans again through the nightmare of forced business closures, mandated face masks, and restrictions of Constitutional liberties based on false propaganda.

In Texas the “second wave” propaganda has gotten so bad that the leaders of the four major hospitals in Houston took the extraordinary step late last week of holding a joint press conference to clarify that the scare stories of Houston hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid cases are simply untrue. Dr. Marc Boom of Houston Methodist said the reporting on hospital capacity is misleading. He said, “quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”

In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the virus but to hospital practices of Covid-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all. If it’s a positive, well that counts as a “Covid hospitalization.” Why would hospitals be so dishonest in their diagnoses? Billions of appropriated Federal dollars are being funneled to facilities based on the number of “Covid cases” they can produce. As I’ve always said, if you subsidize something you get more of it. And that’s why we are getting more Covid cases.

Let’s go back to the original measurements used to scare Americans into giving up their Constitutional liberties: the daily death numbers. Even though we know hospitals have falsely attributed countless deaths to “Covid-19” that were deaths WITH instead of FROM the virus, we are seeing actual deaths steadily declining over the past month and a half. Declining deaths are not a great way to push the “second wave” propaganda, so the media and politicians have moved the goal posts and decided that only “cases” are important. It’s another big lie.

Resist propaganda and defend your liberty. That is the only way we’ll get through this.
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Airport Razz
Mon Jun 29 2020, 06:55PM
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OK, administrators still a tad touchy. I'll try posing my questions here.
Ok, local count has risen again. What I would like to know is what profession are these current victims are in, were they infected up here are down the hill, are they out in the masses on the weekend. Just WHAT should we be avoiding and staying away from other than everything and everybody. Would be nice to know before I or my guys go waking into another repair job. Thought that was a fairly non political, non-critical, just want to know question. I'll go back in my hole seeing as this is just TOO much for some to read.
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doo·hick·ey
Mon Jun 29 2020, 08:55PM

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A lot seem to think it's a media hoax. Just do your normal preps man.
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Nature
Mon Jun 29 2020, 09:27PM

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Mr Owl-Funny! 🤣
Airport-I agree! Where did the infected get it?
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Airport Razz
Mon Jun 29 2020, 10:23PM
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Thinking that with the number of people I poked with my original post and thar it disappeared into nothingness, there is an outside chance that the powers that be might not want that info made public. Like what if last 2-3 infections were locals and was exposed by........ Yes, I'm going to say it..... One of the down the hill crowd that is now allowed up here with 'open' arms even though the valley is not prepared for it. That would imply responsibility by the powers that be and that person might be well intended to hire one of the virus ambulance chasers on TV and go after those powers that be for endangering those peoples lives. Hmmmmmmm. I've seen lesser actions dictate millions in legal settlementd.
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Airport Razz
Mon Jun 29 2020, 10:26PM
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Or they got it through one of the businesses currently not putting their 'best' foot forward
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Skyline Drive
Tue Jun 30 2020, 06:55AM

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The Valley picked up another 1 covid case now at 13 Confirmed cases around us.

Big Bear City
(Population 10,838)
Confirmed cases: 5
(4.6 per 10,000 residents)
Deaths: 0
(0.00 per 10,000 residents)
As of: Monday, June 29

Big Bear Lake
(Population 5,247)
Confirmed cases: 8
(15.2 per 10,000 residents)
Deaths: 0
(0.00 per 10,000 residents)
As of: Monday, June 29

Crestline
(Population 8,042)
Confirmed cases: 20
(24.9 per 10,000 residents)
Deaths: 2
(2.49 per 10,000 residents)
As of: Monday, June 29


Blue Jay
(Population 903)
Confirmed cases: 0
(0.0 per 10,000 residents)
Deaths: 1
(11.07 per 10,000 residents)
As of: Monday, June 29

Rimforest
(Population 762)
Confirmed cases: 1
(13.1 per 10,000 residents)
Deaths: 0
(0.00 per 10,000 residents)
As of: Monday, June 29

Running Springs
(Population 4,677)
Confirmed cases: 7
(15.0 per 10,000 residents)
Deaths: 0
(0.00 per 10,000 residents)
As of: Monday, June 29




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QuantumBear
Tue Jun 30 2020, 07:03AM
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Polar 🌌rbit wrote ...

Get over it. People are done with statistics,

Keep talking.

Socialists bring Repubs and Dems together
Poke trump with a fork.
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QuantumBear
Tue Jun 30 2020, 07:14AM
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Cornbread wrote ...

Here is a article from Ron Paul on how the media is lying about the 2nd wave.

For months, the Washington Post and the rest of the mainstream media kept a morbid Covid-19 “death count” on their front pages and at the top of their news broadcasts. The coronavirus outbreak was all about the number of dead. The narrative was intended to boost governors like Cuomo in New York and Whitmer in Michigan, who turned their states authoritarian under the false notion that destroying people’s jobs, freedom, and lives would somehow keep a virus from doing what viruses always do: spread through a population until eventually losing strength and dying out.

The “death count” was always the headline.

But then all of a sudden early in June the mainstream media did a George Orwell and lectured us that it is all about “cases” and has always been all about “cases.” Death, and especially infection fatality rate, were irrelevant. Why? Because from the peak in April, deaths had decreased by 90 percent and were continuing to crash. That was not terrifying enough so the media pretended this good news did not exist.

With massive increases in testing, the “case” numbers climbed. This is not rocket science: the more people you test the more “cases” you discover.

Unfortunately our mainstream media is only interested in pushing the “party line.” So the good news that millions more have been exposed while the fatality rate continues to decline - meaning the virus is getting weaker - is buried under hysterical false reporting of “new cases.”

Unfortunately many governors, including our own here in Texas, are incapable of resisting the endless lies of the mainstream media. They are putting Americans again through the nightmare of forced business closures, mandated face masks, and restrictions of Constitutional liberties based on false propaganda.

In Texas the “second wave” propaganda has gotten so bad that the leaders of the four major hospitals in Houston took the extraordinary step late last week of holding a joint press conference to clarify that the scare stories of Houston hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid cases are simply untrue. Dr. Marc Boom of Houston Methodist said the reporting on hospital capacity is misleading. He said, “quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”

In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the virus but to hospital practices of Covid-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all. If it’s a positive, well that counts as a “Covid hospitalization.” Why would hospitals be so dishonest in their diagnoses? Billions of appropriated Federal dollars are being funneled to facilities based on the number of “Covid cases” they can produce. As I’ve always said, if you subsidize something you get more of it. And that’s why we are getting more Covid cases.

Let’s go back to the original measurements used to scare Americans into giving up their Constitutional liberties: the daily death numbers. Even though we know hospitals have falsely attributed countless deaths to “Covid-19” that were deaths WITH instead of FROM the virus, we are seeing actual deaths steadily declining over the past month and a half. Declining deaths are not a great way to push the “second wave” propaganda, so the media and politicians have moved the goal posts and decided that only “cases” are important. It’s another big lie.

Resist propaganda and defend your liberty. That is the only way we’ll get through this.

Duder, this is still the first wave.

Socialists bring Repubs and Dems together
Poke trump with a fork.
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SQUATCH
Tue Jun 30 2020, 08:07AM

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1 new case, oh the calamity, the world is going to end!!!
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Marty
Jul 15 : 08:12pm
True, no new cases in BBL. But 9 new cases in the valley:

Big Bear Lake +0
Big Bear City +5
Sugarloaf +4

Total cases valley wide: 37

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Jul 15 : 07:21pm
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No new cases reported in City of Big Bear Lake, but additional cases reported in unincorporated County and Chamber surveying village businesses, City Staff readying a proposal for LIMITED street closures. Click the link to read the COVID Update #87: [Click Here]

Doug5551
Jul 15 : 05:37pm
Thanks Toddy. I saw your beautiful and amazing pics. We will have two different pairs of binoculars. I know that it's getting higher in the sky each night, but the Astronomy reports I saw said last week it was at maximum brightness and that it's going to keep fading from now. I'm looking forward to tonight. Thanks for your tips and suggestions.

McToddy
Jul 15 : 05:04pm
@Doug -- FYI: the comet may be faint to see with the naked eye tonight. But it will get better going into next week. My first time looking for it (4a last Friday morning) I was able to see it with just my eyes. It was a bit hard to see it with my eyes last night, but my camera could pick it up. (old eyes)

MMMMmmmm burritos!!

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Doug5551
Jul 15 : 03:36pm
Tonight planning to go to Baldwin Lake/Shay at 9.

Doug5551
Jul 15 : 03:35pm
Benny, where were the pics you too of the Comet. Near Summit??

doo·hick·ey
Jul 15 : 03:35pm
Thx McToddy.
Razz that 3.99 burrito at Staters is secret goodness.

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Doug5551
Jul 15 : 03:19pm
I saw Comet Hale-Bopp up here in 97 and it was very bright! I also saw Comet Hyakutaki up here in early 96. I was working at Summit and remember discussing the Comet with Captain John who was operating Demozine rental shop at Summit Base. Great memories!

Doug5551
Jul 15 : 03:15pm
Benny and McToddy,

Many thanks to you both for posting info about Comet Neowise. My GF has never seen a comet and I am very excited to show it to her tonight from the East Valley.

Airport Razz
Jul 15 : 02:51pm
And have been on hold now for 22 minutes with cell phone insurance company. Where's that drinking habit when you need it

Airport Razz
Jul 15 : 02:49pm
Going to be a long end of the week. Spent 55 minutes in line at DIY, another 20 at the bank, hour and half at verizon store and another 45 at stater (shouldn't have asked for the deli burrito ). I guess my life is now waiting in lines??

McToddy
Jul 15 : 02:34pm
@spice and doo - thx. Doo, im glad you were able to get the settings from the metadata. Let me know if you have any questions. The evening view should get progressively better going into next week as the comet (when it first becomes visible around 9) will be higher, meaning that it will be in the sky longer (ie when it gets darker) before it drops under the horizon. To snap a pic, you'll most likely need to do a long exposure. Anything longer than 1/60th of second will need a tripod or have the camera sitting on something. Also, if your camera has a 2 second delay (between pushing the button and the shutter actually triggering), use that feature. It will isolate camera movement from your finger press to allow the camera to settle before opening the shutter


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