Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Oct 13 2006, 03:44PM : Posts: 823
NOTE...I EDITED MY POST TO CONTAIN THE NEWEST MAP BASED ON INFO GIVEN TO ME AT THIS EVENINGS COMMUNITY MEETING. I ALSO DELETED THE COUPLE OF REPLIES THAT THERE WERE SO THAT THEY WERENT CONFUSED WITH THE NEW IMAGE
note: the orange is the OFFICIAL FIRE PERIMITER based on the map at the meeting and the red is the area that was shown to me by the officials as the latest progress not yet incorporated into the maps they had displayed. so this is the most current map available!!!!!
i put together a bunch of different topo maps off a website i use to research mining claims courtesy of photoshop and highlighed the current fire area based upon the official map. I matched it as close as possible. hope this helps and puts your minds at ease a little.
sorry that the file is so wide, but i wanted to clearly illustrate the fires proximity to fawnskin. have fun scrolling
blake
NEVER FORGET! Sometimes you dont realize what you really have in life until it is gone. Both material and more importantly with friendships/relationships. So please go out there and put a smile on someones face today. It will make the world a better place.
Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Oct 13 2006, 03:44PM : Posts: 823
bump NEVER FORGET! Sometimes you dont realize what you really have in life until it is gone. Both material and more importantly with friendships/relationships. So please go out there and put a smile on someones face today. It will make the world a better place.
The Butler 2 Fire was reported at 1:21 pm on Friday northwest of Big Bear Lake. The fire is currently 15, 433 acres and 12% contained. Highway 18 is closed from Running Springs east to Big Bear Dam. Drivers may not access Big Bear from Hwy 18 or from Hwy 330 in San Bernardino, but Hwy 18 is open from Apple Valley (the high desert). Drivers may also access Big Bear via Hwy 38 from I-10 in Redlands.
Manadatory Evacuations for Fawnskin-- Mandatory evacuations remain in effect for the Fawnskin area from the Big Bear Dam to The Discovery Center north of Hwy 38. An evacuation center has been setup at the Big Bear High School in Sugarloaf.
Voluntary Evacuations are in effect for the Green Valley Lake area-- The mandatory evacuation order for the entire community from Hwy 18 as well as campgrounds from Green Valley Lake RD has been downgraded to a voluntary evacuation status. Campgrounds include--Greeen Valley, Crab Flats, Tent Peg, and Fisherman's.
Evacuation center at Jerry Lewis Community Center in Highland.
Voluntary Evacuations remain in effect for Lucerne Valley from Crystal Creek Road on the east to High Rd on the west and North to the Pitzer Buttes area.
Voluntary Evacuations remain in effect for the communities of Running Springs and Arrowbear.
Evcaution center is at Victor Valley College. Basic Information Incident Type Wildland Fire Cause Under Investigation Date of Origin 09/14/2007 at 1321 hrs. Location NW of Big Bear Lake Incident Commander Fiorella Current Situation Total Personnel 2,245 Size 15,433 acres Percent Contained 12% Fuels Involved
Grass, Brush, and Timber. Fire Behavior
Active ground fire with torching. Significant Events
Highway 18 remains closed between Running Springs and Big Bear Lake Dam. Outlook Planned Actions
Continue to provide structure protection. Continue to construct direct and indirect line. Projected Movement
North and East Growth Potential
Extreme Terrain Difficulty
High. Remarks
Highway closures--Hwy 18 is closed from Running Springs to Big Bear Dam. Drivers may not access Big Bear from Hwy 18 or from Hwy 330 in San Bernardino, but Hwy 18 is open from Apple Valley (the high desert). Drivers may also access Big Bear via Hwy 38 from I-10 in Redlands.
Areas Closed--Camp Whittle Boy Scout Camp, Big Pine Flat, Ironwood, Hanna Flat, Yellow Post campsites in the area, and Butler Peak Lookout.
Forest Road Closures--2N13, both ends of 3N14, 4N16, 3N16 at Crab Flats, Grays Peak Trailhead.
Resources on Scene--54 hand crews, 41 engines, 10 helicopters, 12 air tankers,12 dozers, and 33 watertenders.
Mandatory Community Evacuations remain in effect for the Fawnskin area from the Big Bear Dam to The Discovery Center north of Hwy 38. An evacuatiion center has been setup at the Big Bear High School in Sugarloaf.
The mandatory evacuation order has been changed to voluntary for the Green Valley Lake area.
Voluntary Evacuations remain in effect for Lucerne Valley from Crystal Creek West to High Road and North to the Pitzer Buttes area and the communities of Running Springs and Arrowbear.
Additional Red Cross evacuation shelters have been set up at the Victor Valley Community College and the Jerry Lewis Community Center in Highland. This country needs thousands of unemployed politicians. If Obama is the answer how stupid was the question?
Butler 2 Fire - map is approximate; area map [Click Here] 07:30 AM Mon 9/17
Get the mud droppers in here, the heavies, and lets get going on this and figure out what a plan is here. 07:29 AM Mon 9/17
(Ground) Okay, we're gonna get three heavies in here and start working the back of this, and towards you there. 07:27 AM Mon 9/17
(Ground unit) It's closing in on Gray's Peak, but probably still about 1/2 a mile away from the line; I can use some heavy helicopters or whatever you can get in here. That, and the part to the west is a priority. 07:25 AM Mon 9/17
BB transcriber online; Air Attack 13 is preparing for his morning recon flight of conditions. 11:35 PM Sun 9/16
{RS Transcriber off line. Thanks to all that helped today. You are very much appreciated!} 11:35 PM Sun 9/16
{scanners have been pretty much silent} 10:47 PM Sun 9/16 From: 168.100
Div A and Div Z - we're going to get the other members of our strike team back and we will expand our patrols of the 18; we'll move down into your division 10:40 PM Sun 9/16 From: 168.100
{strike team discussion} increasing patrols in Fawnskin tonight 10:39 PM Sun 9/16 From: 168.100
Road crews are pushing the stuff off the highway on the 18 into the green; crews extinguished some spot fires caused by this earlier today. Need to contact them. 10:31 PM Sun 9/16
{scanners have all but fallen silent for the Butler Incident} 09:39 PM Sun 9/16
"there's a lot of rocks coming down still" 09:31 PM Sun 9/16
dozers are working their way of down from Big Pine Flats for the night 09:27 PM Sun 9/16
put some hand line in where it hits the fire at the south edge, is that what you're thinking? The main road {}; 08:28 PM Sun 9/16
{scanner traffic has mostly been crew movement} 07:41 PM Sun 9/16
{Just had a briefing.} 07:24 PM Sun 9/16
one finger of the main body of fire start to approach the next 1 hour to 2 hours coming up on the 3N14 road; are we combining Y and Z tonight? Yes, that's affirmative. 07:22 PM Sun 9/16
high 2N13 above that 3N14 dragging the fire down; take it right off that corner at 2N13 and carry it down to that finger down there; I'm going to brief him on everything; I see a strike team of type 3s coming in now; don't know what that's about; I'm going to brief on what we've got and go scouting before it gets completely dark; working into that drainag This country needs thousands of unemployed politicians. If Obama is the answer how stupid was the question?
Big Bear Pilots - Young Eagles
9-16-07 11PM Butler Peak Fire 2 PROGRESS MAP
