EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Benny ⭐, Wed Mar 06 2019, 01:59PM

Very exciting times! Our local Eagle Jackie just laid one of who knows how many more eggs!

You can watch it all unfold live again this season streaming on youtube here!



CLICK TO ENLARGE!



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Fawnskindawn, Wed Mar 06 2019, 02:19PM

Shadow just saw the egg but seemed a bit confused

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BusterBrown, Wed Mar 06 2019, 03:39PM





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SCM ALERT🚨, Wed Mar 06 2019, 04:41PM

A links to some eagle brooding facts that Hugerielly posted in the chatbox: [Click Here]

Good Stuff, enjoy!

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Lumber Jill, Wed Mar 06 2019, 07:20PM

Big Bear bald eagle lays an egg ahead of last public count

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. — Days before the last bald eagle count event of the season, one of Big Bear’s wintering eagles laid an egg live on camera this afternoon. U.S. Forest Service biologists were on the lookout for this moment since the nesting pair has been displaying mating behavior for over a month.

“Now, for the next 35 or so days, we will see the parents share incubation duties,” said Forest Service biologist Robin Eliason. “This regulates the temperature of the egg so the embryo can develop. If all goes well, we should see a hatchling in around April 10. And if things go like last year, we may see a second egg laid later this week!”

The nesting area, which is on the north side of Big Bear Lake in the Fawnskin neighborhood, is currently closed to the public. No hiking, snow play or other activities are allowed in the closure zone. Bald eagles during nesting season are sensitive to human interference and may abandon the nest if feeling threatened. Law enforcement officers have made a presence in the area and will continue to throughout the season.

Luckily, visitors may see a bald eagle this Saturday morning, March 9, at the last winter bald eagle count of the season, an annual event now in its 40th year that takes place at five Inland Empire lakes, including Big Bear. The event allows the public to put their citizen scientist hat on and collect data that helps U.S. Forest Service biologists understand the local wintering bald eagle population.

No reservations are needed; just show up at a designated location at the start time with binoculars and a way to keep time. And don’t forget to dress for winter weather and bring chains if driving to a mountain location!

Time and location details are as follows:

· Big Bear Lake area participants will meet at 8 a.m. at the Big Bear Discovery Center on North Shore Drive (Hwy 38) for orientation. Contact Robin Eliason (reliason@fs.fed.us or 909-382-2832) for more information. Please call 909-382-2832 for cancelation due to winter weather conditions – an outgoing message will be left no later than 6:00 am on Saturday morning if it has to be canceled due to weather and road conditions. There will also be a free slideshow presentation about bald eagles at 11 a.m. after the count.

· Lake Arrowhead/Lake Gregory area participants will meet at 8 a.m. at the Skyforest Work Center on Hwy 18 for orientation. Contact Robin Eliason (reliason@fs.fed.us or 909-382-2832) for more information. Please call 909-382-2832 for cancelation due to winter weather conditions – an outgoing message will be no later than 6:00 am on Saturday morning if it has to be canceled due to weather and road conditions.

· Silverwood Lake State Recreation Area participants should plan to meet at the Silverwood Lake’s park office on Cleghorn Rd. (west of Highway 138) at 8 a.m. for orientation. Contact Mark Wright for more information about volunteering or taking an eagle tour (760-389-2303 between 8 a.m. and 4 p.m.; or email: mark.wright©parks.ca.gov).

· Lake Hemet participants should plan on meeting at the Lake Hemet Grocery Store at 8:30 a.m. for orientation. NOTE: Highway 74 from Hemet and Highway 243 from Banning are currently closed due to storm damage. Participants must use Highway 74 from Anza or Palm Desert.

· Lake Perris State Recreation Area participants should plan to meet at the Lake Perris Regional Indian Museum at 8 a.m. for orientation. For more information call Lake Perris SRA at 951-940-5600 or the Lake Perris Regional Indian Museum at 951-940-5657.

Those who can’t make the counts can still try to see bald eagles around our local lakes this winter. Contact the Big Bear Discovery Center (909-382-2790) or the Idyllwild Ranger Station (909-382-2921) for eagle watching tips and etiquette on the San Bernardino National Forest.

And for eagle viewing any time of the day, the live feed of the bald eagle nest is back! Through a partnership with the Friends of the Big Bear Valley, a new camera was installed last summer, offering a higher resolution feed, better zooming and a nearly 360-degree panning option. It can be viewed at the Institute for Wildlife Studies’ website or on YouTube.

Zach Behrens
Public Affairs Officer, Forest Service
San Bernardino National Forest, Supervisor's Office

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Fawnskindawn, Thu Mar 07 2019, 07:20AM

A bit worried that the egg has been left uncovered for the last hour. Jackie left at 6:20.

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Lumber Jill, Thu Mar 07 2019, 07:37AM


Trust the process. The first egg often isn't fully incubated until the next egg (or the last egg) is laid, so that they'll hatch closer together. At this point they only need to keep it from freezing. Of course, it is nerve wracking. A predictor could always steal the egg, but I suspect that the parents are close by aware of who may be at their nest.

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Fawnskindawn, Thu Mar 07 2019, 07:50AM

Thanks LumberJill. Shadow seems a bit confused but trying hard. I say April 11 2:45 pm for the first eaglet to hatch.

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Lumber Jill, Thu Mar 07 2019, 10:15AM

From Friends of Big Bear Valley and Big Bear Eagle Nest Cam
Facebook page:
"If you are worried about the egg being exposed without incubation, here is some information that might help ease your mind a bit. "According to Professor Jim Grier, birds often start incubation slowly or gradually when temperatures aren’t in the freezing range. Freshly laid eggs can spend a lot of time in the zone of suspended development (roughly 28.4 to 80.6°F or -2°C to 27°C) with no harm to the egg or embryo." Currently it's 34 degrees in the nest vicinity. Last year, there were several times very soon after the egg(s) was laid when it was left alone for what seemed like long periods. Keeping our fingers crossed that Jackie and Shadow know what they're doing."

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Lumber Jill, Fri Mar 08 2019, 07:51AM





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Lumber Jill, Fri Mar 08 2019, 07:52AM

Shadow



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Polar 🌌rbit, Fri Mar 08 2019, 10:06AM

With the cold, I'm betting on a later hatch. First pip April 12. Not fully hatched until the 13th. Second egg sometime tomorrow, Sat Mar 9.

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Benny ⭐, Fri Mar 08 2019, 04:51PM



They're usually pretty punctualm April 11-12th sounds just about right! If if there's to be another egg is should happen now-through the weekend.

Just throwing the live feed here again in case anyone comes straight to Page 2 of the discussion.



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Lumber Jill, Fri Mar 08 2019, 07:56PM

An interesting article about eagle trios: [Click Here]

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onur6boss, Fri Mar 08 2019, 08:12PM

Great article. And so heartwarming. I am in awe of nature. And absolutely enthralled with our eagles. I can't wait to share this article with hubby. Thank you for sharing, LJ.

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Benny ⭐, Sat Mar 09 2019, 05:35PM

JACKIE HAS LAID HER SECOND EGG!!!

CLICK TO ENLARGE




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Benny ⭐, Sat Mar 09 2019, 05:37PM

Close up




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Fawnskindawn, Sat Mar 09 2019, 06:50PM

way to go Jackie.

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Benny ⭐, Sat Mar 09 2019, 08:33PM

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. — After more than 125 people fanned out across Southern California’s Inland
Empire to participate in the last public bald eagle count of the season, a bald eagle in Big Bear laid a
second egg at a nest where a live webcam is placed. It was laid at approximately 5:25 p.m. The first egg
was laid on Wednesday, March 6.

The incubation period for bald eagle eggs averages around 35 days. The parents will switch off incubation
duties to keep the eggs warm as the embryos develop. If all goes well, including if the eggs were fertilized
in the first place during mating, chicks should hatch in early to mid-April.

At the public count earlier in the day, thirteen bald eagles were confirmed citizen scientists during this
last winter bald eagle count of the season. It is the 40th year of the annual count that spans five lakes
within San Bernardino National Forest and two California State Park recreation areas on four Saturdays
throughout the winter. The results from today are as follows:

 Big Bear Lake: 2 adults, 4 subadults (37 participants)
 Lake Arrowhead: 1 adult (4 participants)
 Lake Hemet: 1 adult (5 participants)
 Lake Perris State Recreation Area: 2 adults (47 participants)
 Silverwood Lake State Recreation Area: 1 adult, 2 subadults (30 participants)
Several dozen bald eagles typically spend their winter vacations around Southern California’s lakes,
adding to a few resident nesting bald eagles that stay year-round. Agency biologists recruit the
public to help monitor the local population by conducting simultaneous counts.

The count coordinators from the Forest Service and California State Parks would like to thank those
participants for their dedication in getting up early and participating in the event. The success of the
eagle counts is entirely dependent on the citizen scientists!

For eagle viewing any time of the day, there’s a live-feed of the Big Bear bald eagle nest! The nest-cam
is provided by the Friends of the Big Bear Valley and can be viewed at their website, the Institute for
Wildlife Studies’ website or on YouTube.

The webcam monitors a nest on National Forest lands near Big Bear Lake’s north shore.

The area around the nest is closed to all public entry until the chicks have fledged.
The closure encompasses Grout Bay Picnic Area, Grays Peak Trail and surrounding National Forest areas.
No entry, including snow play on the edges of the area, is allowed.
Bald eagles during nesting season are sensitive to human interference and may abandon nesting activities if feeling threatened.

Those who did not make the counts can still try to see bald eagles around local lakes this winter.

Contact the Big Bear Discovery Center (909-382-2790) or the Idyllwild Ranger Station (909-382-2921)
for eagle watching tips and etiquette on the San Bernardino National Forest


Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Fawnskindawn, Sun Mar 10 2019, 07:43AM

Shadow actually spent 24 minutes laying quietly on the eggs this morning. I think he is getting used to it.

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BootsNBridles, Sun Mar 10 2019, 08:45AM

Would Shadow be counted as a subadult and Mr. B as an adult? Has anyone verified seeing Stormy?

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Lumber Jill, Sun Mar 10 2019, 08:54AM

Since none of the birds are seen during the eagle count as clearly as they are in the live webcam, chances are both Shadow and Mr. B would be considered adults (hard to see with your eye the bits of dark on Shadows tail as he flies around) I saw a report of Stormie being seen (tags seen) a couple of weeks ago closer to the airport

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Lumber Jill, Sun Mar 10 2019, 09:53AM

Some thoughts from Friends of Big Bear Valley and Big Bear Eagle Nest Cam Facebook page:

"A few glitches with the live stream this morning and it took a while for the clock to get updated to daylight savings time. But, things are looking great now. Jackie just brought in a big load of grassy insulating material for the nest. A lot of comments have been made throughout this nesting effort about the lack of grassy material. The same thing happened last year - they didn't start bringing in the fluffy stuff until after Egg #2 had been laid. By keeping the first egg cooler until the second one is laid helps ensure that the chicks will hatch closer together and be closer in size. That reduces the chances of one chick killing another. Now that they've got two eggs, full incubation will start. Last year's eggs were laid 3 days apart and hatched 38 days after the first egg was laid (35 days after Egg #2). This year, 35 days from Egg #1 is April 10; 35 days from Egg #2 is April 13th. So, we're targeting April 13th for Hatch Day!"

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Benny ⭐, Sun Mar 10 2019, 04:46PM

Nature's so cool! And here, everyone's freaking out cause the egg was left another, they know what they're doing!

Never tell another mom how to raise her kids!




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Lumber Jill, Sun Mar 10 2019, 07:24PM

I'd like to tell Shadow to stop stepping on the egg, though!

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Benny ⭐, Mon Mar 11 2019, 09:31AM

Keeping the link to the feed on current page.



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Fawnskindawn, Mon Mar 11 2019, 01:12PM

They are on the nest together

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Lumber Jill, Mon Mar 11 2019, 09:24PM

Jackie's in for a long night with a foot of snow possible.



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Lumber Jill, Tue Mar 12 2019, 07:07AM

5 am. She woke throughout the night to shake off the foot of snow we got. Notice that the snow does not melt on her (she is not wet) because of how insulating her feathers are,



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Lumber Jill, Tue Mar 12 2019, 07:12AM

Even more impressive picture from Friends of Big Bear Valley and Big Bear Eagle Nest Cam Facebook page



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BootsNBridles, Tue Mar 12 2019, 09:52AM

Shadows been on the nest most of the morning. Doing a great job for a first time dad!

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Benny ⭐, Tue Mar 12 2019, 10:01AM

Live stream....



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Benny ⭐, Tue Mar 12 2019, 10:03AM

Awwwww, it's hungry!




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Lumber Jill, Tue Mar 12 2019, 12:47PM

That's the "danger flying overhead" pose. If you scroll back and watch, you see a shadow pass over the nest. They have had ravens hoping to find the nest unattended.

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Socalman, Tue Mar 12 2019, 01:53PM

Are there any other known eagle nesting sites in the Big Bear Valley?

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Lumber Jill, Tue Mar 12 2019, 02:47PM


Years ago there was a nest on eagles point, but the eagles that built it never used it as a nest.

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©ammy, Tue Mar 12 2019, 08:02PM


Hmmm... a shadow over Shadow, you say?

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Lumber Jill, Sat Mar 16 2019, 08:43AM

Something flew overhead this morning (about 6am, probably an owl) upsetting Jackie. This is her defensive response



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©ammy, Sat Mar 16 2019, 08:26PM

That looks like something from a horror movie.

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SCM ALERT🚨, Sat Mar 16 2019, 08:56PM

Im not going near her, thats for sure!!!


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Benny ⭐, Tue Mar 19 2019, 04:54PM



I'm going to go sit on her!

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Lumber Jill, Thu Apr 11 2019, 06:48AM

I thought that this was a cool shot of Shadow sitting on the eggs this morning



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Fawnskindawn, Thu Apr 11 2019, 06:11PM

I can't wait to see Shadow with the babies, He is so attentive to J ackie so I think he will be an awesome daddy. Hurry up and hatch please

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Lumber Jill, Thu Apr 11 2019, 07:45PM

Tonights zoom in of the eggs. No sign of pipping yet, but who knows what's happening on the other side of the eggs.



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Lumber Jill, Fri Apr 12 2019, 08:19AM

Do we have a pip? Time will tell!



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Lumber Jill, Fri Apr 12 2019, 02:43PM

We have a pip! If you scroll back to 14:36:30 you can see bits of shell moving.



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QuietOne, Fri Apr 12 2019, 08:16PM

They have to feel the movement and hear things while sitting on the eggs. I just can't believe their patience! I'd be helping the little guys out at the first sign of pipping! I know, nature knows best. Good thing I'm not sitting on those eggs though!

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Benny ⭐, Fri Apr 12 2019, 11:19PM

Will probably be open by morning, but yes, she's cracked!





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Lumber Jill, Sat Apr 13 2019, 09:26AM

Well, there's no more doubt that a chick is trying to hatch.



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Benny ⭐, Sat Apr 13 2019, 10:42AM

At 10:40 am you could see the little baby beak peeking out of the egg shell and can hear the little chirps! It's almost time!!!

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Lumber Jill, Sat Apr 13 2019, 11:09AM





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Lumber Jill, Sat Apr 13 2019, 11:20AM

Here you can see the egg tooth...the nub on the chicks beak that is used to crack open the shell. It is the white line in the dark opening just above the arrow, running at about the same angle as the arrow.



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SCM ALERT🚨, Sat Apr 13 2019, 11:22AM

Live Eagle Cam hosted by YouTube - courtesy of the Friends of Big Bear Valley ( website: [Click Here] )



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Lumber Jill, Sat Apr 13 2019, 11:47AM

The anxious parents



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Juliann, Sat Apr 13 2019, 12:09PM



Great capture of the two parents!

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Lumber Jill, Sat Apr 13 2019, 07:48PM

[Click Here]
This video captured the second egg pipping! At 18:31:15 you see a white piece shoot off from the top of the egg, and a little bulge remains where it had been smooth.

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cabinboy, Sun Apr 14 2019, 12:35AM

Didn't see the Pip Streak from the Pip Squeak? Look here...






Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Sun Apr 14 2019, 08:02AM

Chick 1 still isn't completely out if its shell. Actually, I think the shells is gone and just the membrane is left. It's very active and vocal. Should be free soon.



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Lumber Jill, Sun Apr 14 2019, 08:07AM

And just like that, the chick kicked the membrane and it's legs are free.



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Polar 🌌rbit, Sun Apr 14 2019, 08:58AM

It seemed like Jackie sat on the egg so tightly, it couldn't break free. Shadow tried to roll it and that kicked the last break open.

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skiddered, Sun Apr 14 2019, 01:28PM

Not a great screen shot, but this is from about 1:20 p.m. on Sunday, April 14. You can see the young eaglet as the parents switch out.



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Lumber Jill, Sun Apr 14 2019, 06:22PM

The new family at feeding time.



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Benny ⭐, Sun Apr 14 2019, 08:56PM



No I want to feed him, no me!

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moco, Mon Apr 15 2019, 07:38AM





second eaglet working its way out.

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Lumber Jill, Mon Apr 15 2019, 07:43AM

Morning feeding and progress on #2



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Lumber Jill, Mon Apr 15 2019, 07:14PM

Chick 2 should have better in control of it's head tomorrow and start competing with chick 1 for food. Chick 1 i eating well today



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Lumber Jill, Mon Apr 15 2019, 07:18PM

One more



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ChattieKathie, Mon Apr 15 2019, 08:38PM

Beautiful pics! Sooo precious!!

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Hooky Bobber, Tue Apr 16 2019, 06:18AM

T Burbank

"Good morning, and in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night!"

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Lumber Jill, Thu Apr 18 2019, 07:25AM

Some cute pics from this morning





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Lumber Jill, Fri Apr 19 2019, 08:30AM

Where'd the chicks go?!




There they are! They had a BIG delivery of nest fluff delivered today!



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Lumber Jill, Sat Apr 20 2019, 09:40AM

Someone was pissing Jackie off this morning for about a half an hour. My guess is a rat/squirrel/chipmunk was running around the branches.




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Lumber Jill, Sun Apr 21 2019, 10:08AM

There was a lively debate this morning. Jackie wanted to feed the chicks and Shadow thought they were cold. Shadow won the battle, and sat on the chicks for 5 minutes. Jackie won the war when he got up to go catch a fish.



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SCM ALERT🚨, Sun Apr 21 2019, 11:35AM

Lumber, I saw her during that episode. Not sure what/who it was but she was definitely ready to defend!! Any idea what it was??

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Sun Apr 21 2019, 12:06PM


Yesterday? No idea. It didn't seem to be flying so I'd have to believe a squirrel or chipmunk.

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Sun Apr 21 2019, 07:48PM

It was a big day on the nest! Jackie left Shadow alone with the kids for almost 3 hours, and Shadow made his first attempts at feeding them! He was pretty gentle at it, for the klutz that he is!



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Thu Apr 25 2019, 10:17AM

The chicks are leaving the cute fuzzy stage and entering teenage-hood. Their beaks are growing into that classic raptor shape and they are about the size of a chicken now. They will be showing pin feathers soon.





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Craig ⭐, Thu Apr 25 2019, 11:13AM

BIG BEAR EAGLETS NAMED!
The eaglet naming contest for the Big Bear new born eaglets is over! Big Bear Valley 3rd graders were tasked with voting on a myriad of names submitted to the Friends of Big Bear Valley, the proprietors of the Big Bear eagle cam. The names for the 2 new eaglets are Cookie and Simba! Don't ask me which is which but I am sure one of you reading this knows! Mom and Dad (the parents who were named some time back) are Shadow and Jackie. As you can see in this mornings picture, Cookie and Simba are growing rapidly and are about the size of a small chicken! Thanks to the Friends of Big Bear Valley for giving us a means to experience nature in a whole new light! Welcome to the neighborhood Shadow, Jackie, Cookie, and Simba!



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Mon Apr 29 2019, 04:03PM

How to feed chicks while keeping them dry



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Wed May 01 2019, 02:09PM

They are a feisty pair, but pretty evenly matched. It's hard to watch them fight, but remember that it's how nature assures only the strongest survive.



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Fri May 03 2019, 07:55AM

The chicks now have thermal down which helps them regulate their own temperature better. It also means that the sun makes them hot!


Sassy pants sitting at the edge of the nest bowl while mom cleans it up a bit.



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Lumber Jill, Wed May 08 2019, 05:45PM

You can see pin flight feathers coming in on their wings. If you watch them in the live feed, you can see that they are having trouble holding up their wings. They are growing so fast, they have to build their wing muscles!



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Lumber Jill, Wed May 08 2019, 06:08PM

The chicks just ate 1/2 of a good sized fish in a single meal! Look how engorged their gullets are!



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HazMatMind, Wed May 08 2019, 06:46PM

Great captures, thanks!

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Lumber Jill, Thu May 09 2019, 07:05AM

Check those drumsticks! And the massive feet! Their feet are almost full grown right now (compare them to moms in the background)



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Polar 🌌rbit, Thu May 09 2019, 01:59PM

I'm glad the eggs came late this year. Last year's weather was brutal enough and this year would have been worse. Those two eaglets are well taken care of. No wonder they barely have time to bonk.

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Benny ⭐, Thu May 09 2019, 04:41PM



MMMmmmmmmm, did someone say drumsticks???

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Lumber Jill, Fri May 10 2019, 07:25PM

Jackie makes a great umbrella! Fortunately, the chicks still mostly fit under her.



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Lumber Jill, Sat May 11 2019, 08:00AM

The chicks fared well overnight. Shadow brought in a fish early, but Jackie wanted a break before breakfast.





The chicks watching mom fly overhead



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Sun May 12 2019, 05:54PM

Did you see Shadow take another poop-shoot to the leg. He just watched as the chick did it. You'd think he'd know the warning signs by now



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Lumber Jill, Mon May 13 2019, 07:04AM

If you missed it, it's about second 45. You gotta think it's somewhat deliberate
[Click Here]

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Tlingit, Mon May 13 2019, 11:23AM

Kids have been doing that to their parents for eons..

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Lumber Jill, Tue May 14 2019, 01:35PM

The chicks had a visitor today



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Wed May 15 2019, 12:41PM

Lots of feathers coming in. They're starting to do their wingercise, and trying to feed themselves little bits laying around.





Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Thu May 16 2019, 08:28AM

Another miserable day on the nest. Good thing Jackie is a good momma!



Close up of the feathers coming in (taken before the rain started)




Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
BootsNBridles, Thu May 16 2019, 12:44PM

Shadow showed up and Jackie took a break. Took a little bit for him to figure out his job but he did eventually cover them and seems to be doing a good job! They are snuggled in on top of each other so they are both covered!

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Fri May 17 2019, 09:08AM

One of the chicks scared everyone yesterday when it refused to eat for a couple of hours after the rain stopped. Just before the sun set, it came around and got a good feeding. Both chicks look healthy this morning. One of the buggers got the camera with a poop-shoot, and thus the smear at the bottom of the shot.



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Lumber Jill, Fri May 17 2019, 10:34AM

Some information from Big Bear Valley Eagles - Official Group Facebook page administrator Jean Pichler

"Have you noticed there's an awful lot of picking and scratching going on with the youngsters?

Their feathers are beginning to grow in and it takes some work to help that process along. Feathers grow out of a follicle (like our hair) and have a keratin sheath around the tightly bound feather to aid it while it grows through the skin and to protect the feather while it is still pliable and soft. Inside the sheath is the developing feather, supplied by blood flow through the feather shaft. Growing feathers are often called blood feathers at this stage, since breaking or cracking one can cause some blood loss.

As the feather grows longer, the blood gradually recedes
from the tip of the feather down toward the follicle and eventually the feather shaft will have no blood in it when fully grown. The sheath dries as the feather grows and the eaglets are working at breaking off the dried sheath so the feathers can begin to unfurl.

Growing in an entire body full of feathers is energy-consuming for the eaglets and they are often restful, subdued, and a little cranky during this time. They will eventually have over 7000 feathers covering their bodies, each one needing continual grooming to keep them in good condition.

When there are close ups of the eaglets, look for lots of "dander" which is from the chicks' nibbling away the dried sheaths"

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Fri May 17 2019, 10:38AM

Another post from Facebook Big Bear Valley Eagles - Official Group: Crystal Cardona



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Lumber Jill, Fri May 17 2019, 10:41AM

It was only a matter of time!


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Lumber Jill, Fri May 17 2019, 07:24PM

We're getting all sorts of eagle lessons today! Eagles (and other birds of prey) cough up pellets of undigestible bones, fur, feathers etc. Here is slow-motion of one of the chicks doing just that!


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terraelise, Fri May 17 2019, 08:40PM

Thank you for sharing this because I honestly didn't understand that "poop shoot" was literal.

That yellow bird earlier was a cutie!




Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Hooky Bobber, Mon May 20 2019, 06:31AM

Its cold



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Lumber Jill, Mon May 20 2019, 07:17AM

Chicks are feisty this morning. Maybe it was the frozen breakfast



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Lumber Jill, Mon May 20 2019, 07:22AM

Jackie didn't shake off before take off so created a snow storm of her own this morning.



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Lumber Jill, Mon May 20 2019, 07:22AM

Part 2 of Jackies snow storm



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Lumber Jill, Mon May 20 2019, 08:25AM

Sun-warmed breakfast!



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Lumber Jill, Thu May 23 2019, 06:54AM

Interesting article on how eagles stay warm in cold weather: [Click Here]

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Lumber Jill, Thu May 23 2019, 08:51AM

It looks as if you can now scroll back 12 hrs on the live feed: [Click Here]

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©ammy, Thu May 23 2019, 08:39PM


Lots of good info in there!

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Hooky Bobber, Fri May 24 2019, 05:51AM




Looks more like
Frozen sushi


Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Fri May 24 2019, 04:00PM

The chicks were banded today. Both are males. Unfortunately, they turned off the cameras during the process. Jackie was back feeding the chicks within 1/2 an hour of the biologist leaving the tree.

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Lumber Jill, Fri May 24 2019, 04:17PM

They were banded with silver on the right and purple on the left like Stormie was.




Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Deb Doodah, Sat May 25 2019, 06:30AM

Cool view from the Eagle cam this morning with the clouds laying over the lake. I think they are waiting for the breakfast delivery.



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Lumber Jill, Sat May 25 2019, 06:52AM

Cookie's band is ZJ1 and Simba is banded ZR1.
Cookie standing


Simba wingercizing



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Fawnskindawn, Sat May 25 2019, 07:34AM

I wish they would have banded with different colors so we could tell them apart easier. Still amazing to follow.


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Lumber Jill, Sat May 25 2019, 07:58AM

The live feed was off during banding, but they were still recording. Here is the 20 minute edited version. The chicks were removed from the nest for banding on the ground because it is too risky to do it in nest when there is more than one chick. [Click Here]

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Lumber Jill, Sat May 25 2019, 08:27AM

There is an unedited version of the chick banding on facebook. It looks as if the chicks were out of the nest for about 2 hrs. Biologist Jim Campbell-Spickler did a good job of keeping the chicks calm and safe.
[Click Here]

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AOaks, Sat May 25 2019, 11:35AM

A huge thanks to this amazing man! He did a phenomenal job.

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Lumber Jill, Sat May 25 2019, 12:31PM

This is a good pic to get an idea of the size of the "chicks" now.



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Lumber Jill, Sat May 25 2019, 12:38PM

Another video by biologist Jim Campbell-Spickler [Click Here]

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©ammy, Sat May 25 2019, 05:10PM

If they'd played videos like those when I was in school, I would have chosen a different career path!

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Sun May 26 2019, 06:13AM

Cookie's first mantling: "Mantling is hunching or arching shoulders and spreading wings over a recent kill to conceal it from other birds and predators who would be potential thieves. In this posture, the wings are mostly spread and drooped to the ground, exposing the bird's upper back, also called the mantle, which gives the action its name." [Click Here]

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Mon May 27 2019, 08:58AM

It is with a broken heart that I have to tell you that Cookie passed this morning at about 8:22. At 7 am, it looked as if both chicks had fared well through last nights storm, but Cookie quickly went down hill from that point. He was 6 weeks old today, the same age that BBB passed.

This is a screenshot from 7:10 this morning.



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Mon May 27 2019, 09:16AM

From Facebook:

Jean Pichler‎ to Big Bear Valley Eagles - Official Group

Friends,

I am sorry to say that unfortunately Friends of Big Bear Valley, the nest cam providers, has reported Cookie died this morning.

As to why, no one can say. Banding went well and both birds were examined by a wildlife biologist at that time and reported to be in good condition. We observed feedings and normal activities after banding. There may have been an internal issue that was not observable that added to this outcome but we just don't know.

Bald eagle mortality is close to 60% for first year birds. There are many things that can cause those deaths to occur, from genetic issues to infections to poisonings to car strikes while feeding. It is not likely Cookie's body will be recovered but that would be up to the US Forest Service to permit if it were to occur.

We continue to watch the cams and Simba's progress. Hopefully you will, at whatever point you are comfortable, be able to do the same. We always hope for successful nests and great outcomes. Nature doesn't always work according to our hopes and desires.

Please be kind to one another in posts in this group amidst the sadness of this sudden occurrence. Thank you.

Soar free and wild, Cookie!

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Mon May 27 2019, 07:56PM

Jackie sent most of the day away from the nest. You could hear her chortling from afar a few times. She came back to the nest tonight and had a touching few moments with Simba before settling in on him for the night. This was not food related. The touched beaks several times.



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Tue May 28 2019, 07:22AM

Here is a video of that moment I mentioned Jackie and Simba shared. It may have just been Simba saying he was hungry, but it did my heart good to think that they were consoling one another.


Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Tue May 28 2019, 02:49PM

A little wingercizing while momma watches



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Cornbread, Tue May 28 2019, 04:09PM

Sorry to hear about Cookie. That really sucks. But just curious what happened to the body?

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Tue May 28 2019, 06:29PM


It's still in the nest. Sometimes they cover the bodies, sometimes they move them off the nest. Other times they become food.

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Deb Doodah, Tue May 28 2019, 08:03PM

It’s was so sad tonight to watch Jackie standing and looking at Cookie for the longest time. Just makes my heart ache. A mother losing a child, no matter the species, is so painful.

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Hooky Bobber, Thu May 30 2019, 09:32AM

necropsy hypothermia they had that ground squirrel in the nest.

Be careful use gopher traps not poisons

At least seven eagles have died in areas along Maryland's Eastern Shore since March 1.Authorities believe they are being poisoned by a pesticide banned since 2009.The poison is passed through the food chain to the birds when they scavenge dead animals.

Wildlife police say bald eagles are dying at an alarming rate along Maryland's Eastern Shore - likely thanks to reckless landowners who set out poison to kill foxes, raccoons and other "nuisance" animals.

Six eagles were found dead March 1 in Kent County, near the Chesapeake Bay on the northern end of the Delmarva Peninsula, according to the Maryland Natural Resources Police. A great horned owl was also dead, and several other eagles were significantly sickened.

Maryland officers as well as agents from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service have since found several other dead eagles in the same area, and three seriously ill eagles were found about 45 miles south in Talbot County on April 3. Two of those were treated and are in stable condition, but one died at the scene. The eagles were scavenging on the carcass of a red fox.

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All the dead and sickened eagles showed signs of ingesting poison. The illegal chemical carbofuran, a pesticide that killed millions of birds before it was banned in the U.S. in 2009, has been confirmed to have poisoned at least some of the bald eagles, Natural Resources Police Lt. Roy Rafter told the Associated Press. Police think old stocks of the pesticide are being used to kill foxes and other farm pests. The eagles, in turn, are poisoned when they feast on the dead animal's remains.

Thirteen eagles were found sickened under similar circumstances in the same region of Maryland in 2016.

“At best, it’s reckless, and, at worst, it could be a deliberate crime,” American Bird Conservancy President Mike Parr told the AP.

Parr added: “It’s tragic. It seems deliberate from our point of view.”

Maryland Natural Resources Police are offering a $10,000 reward for information that helps solve the case.

“It is hard to believe that not one person has information of persons placing a toxic poison that has killed no fewer than twenty eagles in these areas," Fish and Wildlife Services Agent Jay Pilgrim said in a press release. "The only way this stops is if the local communities come forward with information.”

Bald eagles are no longer listed under the Endangered Species Act, but they are still federally protected by the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act. Maryland's Eastern Shore is an especially favorable habitat for the birds.

“That’s like bald eagle central,” Parr told the AP. “This area is hugely important for bald eagles in the Lower 48 (states

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
terraelise, Thu May 30 2019, 12:46PM

Interesting to watch the remaining babe moving around nest material itself.





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Lumber Jill, Sat Jun 01 2019, 07:53PM

An interesting video about eagle chick feather length.


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Polar 🌌rbit, Fri Jun 14 2019, 04:11PM

It looks like Cookie has crumbled away enough we don't have to look at it anymore.

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©ammy, Tue Jul 09 2019, 08:34PM

I saw this eagle in a tree near the lake in Fawnskin this afternoon. Given the proximity to the nest and the fact I don't see any brown in the white feathers, it's gotta be Jackie.










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HazMatMind, Wed Jul 10 2019, 08:01AM

Gorgeous pix, thanks!

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Hooky Bobber, Wed Jul 10 2019, 12:31PM

EAGLE snatches TROUT out of lake || BIG BEAR LAKE, CA || Battle With Gulls

You tube

[Click Here]

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Polar 🌌rbit, Thu Jul 18 2019, 11:45PM

Jackie arrives empty taloned, 2019-07-18 17:31:47. Simba had a hysterical fit.



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Polar 🌌rbit, Fri Jul 19 2019, 12:14AM

Shadow a bit later with dinner. 2019-07-18 17:46:22



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Lumber Jill, Tue Jul 23 2019, 06:39AM

Simba fledged this morning at 6:19



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Cornbread, Tue Jul 23 2019, 07:35AM

They grow up so fast. sniff sniff

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
SDGrandma, Wed Jul 31 2019, 03:20PM

This is posted on Friends of Big Bear...the wonderful people with the live show"Simba"....
Please read and spread the word......


Friends of Big Bear Valley and Big Bear Eagle Nest Cam
6 hrs ·
Look at the size of Simba's beautiful wing next to Shadow!
We'll pretend that Simba was stretching that out alongside dad to show us how proud he is of his big wings...
shhh...so, don't look at the photos showing this was actually when he made a bit of a crash landing into the limb behind dad as he tried to pull down from zipping in too fast to get that fish laying in the nest...
...and we'll whistle and look the other way when he later flies in too high and fast for mom's fish delivery and has to pass by the nest tree to keep from hitting the limb again...
We'll focus on the perfect landing he did on the next pass and all think 'congratulations to Simba, the great flyer!'
**Unfortunately, as Simba learns to hone his flying skills we have discovered that some local photographers seem to think that getting their photos is more important than giving Simba the best chance possible to learn his skills and survive on his own. The National Forest area around the nest has been and remains closed to the public specifically to give Simba that best chance of having a good, healthy and long future. Based on his a bit raggaly flying skills, how quickly Simba gets to the nest for food and that we are often hearing his squees nearby, including this morning, it is highly unlikely that Simba has left the closed area since he fledged last week. Which means that ANY PHOTOS of Simba outside of the nest, on trees other than the nest tree, were taken by someone violating that closure and putting Simba at risk as well as his parents who are trying to protect him. We are very sad to see people putting their own needs ahead of those of our beloved bald eagle family. Please do not support this entitled behavior either by being thrilled with the photos online or by buying them. That will only encourage this type of wreckless behavior against the eagles. You can have all the photos you want from the live stream and the photos we post here and the photos and videos others post here and on other sites. I post so many photos so everyone can see and download the ones they want--all with no impact to the eagles. That is why we put up the nest cam--to be able to watch and share the lives of these beautiful birds with the world without endangering them. And I ask that you to PLEASE PLEASE SPREAD the WORD about this to all your friends so that everyone understands that we all must follow the rules to keep Simba safe and happy.
A HUGE THANK YOU goes out to all of you, viewers and photographers, who have visited to see the eagles from the safe viewing spots outside the closed area. We honor your integrity.
Thank you!
Sandy

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Polar 🌌rbit, Wed Aug 07 2019, 08:13AM

In the forest, the mighty forest, the eaglet squees tonight.
Hush my eaglet, don't squee my eaglet, there'll be no fish tonight.
I want a fish, I want a fish, I want a fish, I want a fish,
I want a fish, I want a fish, I want a fish, I want a fish,
I want a fish, I want a fish, I want a fish, I want a fish,
I want a fish, I want a fish, I want a fish, I want a fish.

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KK, Thu Aug 08 2019, 04:25PM

Stuck in my head all day!🤣

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Hooky Bobber, Fri Aug 16 2019, 08:58AM

Why the name Change from the group?

Inside the gift horse mouth
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!981- 2019 38 years. “I wanted a place where I could live. Now, it’s a place that maybe my kids’ kids can live.”

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Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Polar 🌌rbit, Fri Aug 16 2019, 04:48PM

Well, looking at the links you put out, I see,
SOS/FTB SUSPENDED
What does that mean for their credibility?


Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Tibia w6ajo, Fri Aug 23 2019, 10:41PM

Thank you for posting the heads up ! Was going to donate.



Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
mountainart, Tue Aug 27 2019, 07:38AM

to those that post about eagles somehow being harmed by people being nearby and "bothering" the eagles from 70 feet down on the ground under them, I lived in Montana in an area where eagles exhibit their actual behavioral patterns vis a vis human proximity.

They literally could care less about humans being close. They are scavengers, with same mental ways as crows. Look up on youtube the eagles mobbing people, literally stealing grocery bags from folks, building their nests in residential areas, and hanging out anywhere there is free trash and offal.

The birds do not care about human proximity at all, else they would not build their nests, like in our situation, right off the roof edge of an apartment complex, with traffic , and people all around, and the young eagles play chasing rats on a string that the local kids discovered the eagles like to play, like a cat. That there is proof that the eagles DO NOT CARE about human proximity. ( like the famous eagles starting to come back and nest in Manhattan....if eagles were nervous and skittish about nesting near people, that would be the LAST place on earth to nest!

Overt tendencies and proclivity to live amongst and alongside humans is the reason they were almost exterminated and brought to extinction, precisely because in the settler days, they were known for being a grave nuisance, and a pest bird, that made human settlements their desired location to live in, precisely because they are natural opportunistic scavengers. The humans eventually could not dealwith mobs of eagles converging on them all the time, fighting to grab trash and scraps so humans started to treat them as the pests they are, and campaigned to remove their flocks/mobs from human settlements via poisoning, shooting, trapping, etc.

It does a disservice to promote false paranoid emotional based "poor, sensitive birds" Don't buy pictures taken by photohraphers with telephoto lenses because that might make them " nervous" when rhe eagles CHOOSE, ON THEIR OWN, to roost and hang out in the heavily peopled housing tracts behind Vons. Simba also spends time on a snag Juniper up behind the airport, behind community market, watching all rhe traffic, and loud planes taking off. Doesn't care about us people at all, except to scope us out for any easy pickens we leave to score.

Re: EAGLES JACKIE & SHADOW ~ LAY EGG(S)? 2019
Polar 🌌rbit, Tue Aug 27 2019, 09:18PM

Well said. Crows in formal attire.